Sticks and stones, Bob. I know and love Bernie. And there are plenty of facts in Biden’s favor, except that people and the media are treating this like a stupid game show. Biden has very arguably had the best 3+ years any President has had since Eisenhower. Just vote for Trump and see how that works out.
David, regardless of how the media treats it. The only important thing is who will be 47. If Bidens performance, in the last 3+ years, and on TV last night, and his presence, his charisma are enough then all else is irrelevant, otherwise it is end of freedom as we know it.
Unfortunately people pull the lever based on perceptions, not facts.
Well, that’s good, but I am 72, haven’t voted for a Repug yet, and ain’t starting now. However, in my 1st Presidential election, I voted for Linda Jenness of the Socialist Workers Party because George McGovern made such a mess of a campaign (Thomas Eagleton, etc., etc.).
David, it is a pity you didn't learn much, I am your age also. If I liked the Republican for State office or less I would vote for them when I was younger, but the GOP has moved further right to fascism and the Democratic party has moved further right and are now the old Republican party. I don't vote or trust Federal Republicans or state or county or city since Ray gun. If you think Biden is a radical leftist, you have been brainwashed!
I understand, but we must acknowledge reality. Right now, we are a duopoly. We cannot fix that before the election. I too am a socialist. I would love to see someone run on stripping all the uber wealthy of most of their wealth; requiring they actually work for their money; public funding of all education, health care, and fixing the prices of housing (and restrictions on how many square feet a person can have) - but hey. Someone running on that platform would never make it out of their own living room. We have a lot of work to do. We will not see the results. it may be 50 years before the mess can be fixed. I too am 72. You and I will be dead by then.
Ah, living room politics. My best fantasies. My husband confessed to me that he will vote for trump. He tends to vote 3rd party but no conservative is running. Every now & then I go on a rant about what I'd like to see dems pass, usually along the lines you stated. Hubs then started calling dems the fascists....
Well, RT was one of the few places that actually gave a voice to some of the more left voices, such as Chris Hedges, Dr. Wolff. While I have been sorely disappointed in how Dr. Hedges has been saying lately, and of course, the turning of a few others (thinking of Greenwood and other other author I can't think of his name off hand), that channel was far less dangerous than Fox and even most of the propaganda networks called 'main stream media.' Trolls are everywhere. Here, too.
I agree, but RT did not give a rip about what was good for democracy. RT’s work was done once they so thoroughly divided liberals into tribes they could manage.
How much better it would have been had we just talked with each other about our differences and stopped looking for utopian perfection. That’s what RT did, it drove us into extremes. And we felt righteous in and empowered by our own narratives.
Hmm. I can't disagree with you - but I think, sadly, progressives and liberals and democracy supporters do just fine in dividing into camps. That is why we must set aside ALL differences and rally behind democracy, and who is supportive of that and who isn't. Time later to iron out more progressive policies and politicians if we have a future.
Bernie is a liberal they get wiser with age. You have no facts to debate your defense of Biden upon. You sound like a Russian troll!
Sticks and stones, Bob. I know and love Bernie. And there are plenty of facts in Biden’s favor, except that people and the media are treating this like a stupid game show. Biden has very arguably had the best 3+ years any President has had since Eisenhower. Just vote for Trump and see how that works out.
David, regardless of how the media treats it. The only important thing is who will be 47. If Bidens performance, in the last 3+ years, and on TV last night, and his presence, his charisma are enough then all else is irrelevant, otherwise it is end of freedom as we know it.
Unfortunately people pull the lever based on perceptions, not facts.
You will vote for a right winger long before I will! Biden is too far right for me! That is my proof!
Then you will end up with a Fascist. Be ready for the relocation camp. 🙄
I will of course vote for Biden and hope he is not a Nazi, because I have no choice. But he can sure act like one when it comes to saving democracy.
Well, that’s good, but I am 72, haven’t voted for a Repug yet, and ain’t starting now. However, in my 1st Presidential election, I voted for Linda Jenness of the Socialist Workers Party because George McGovern made such a mess of a campaign (Thomas Eagleton, etc., etc.).
David, it is a pity you didn't learn much, I am your age also. If I liked the Republican for State office or less I would vote for them when I was younger, but the GOP has moved further right to fascism and the Democratic party has moved further right and are now the old Republican party. I don't vote or trust Federal Republicans or state or county or city since Ray gun. If you think Biden is a radical leftist, you have been brainwashed!
I understand, but we must acknowledge reality. Right now, we are a duopoly. We cannot fix that before the election. I too am a socialist. I would love to see someone run on stripping all the uber wealthy of most of their wealth; requiring they actually work for their money; public funding of all education, health care, and fixing the prices of housing (and restrictions on how many square feet a person can have) - but hey. Someone running on that platform would never make it out of their own living room. We have a lot of work to do. We will not see the results. it may be 50 years before the mess can be fixed. I too am 72. You and I will be dead by then.
I don’t think that cheered me up….
Ah, living room politics. My best fantasies. My husband confessed to me that he will vote for trump. He tends to vote 3rd party but no conservative is running. Every now & then I go on a rant about what I'd like to see dems pass, usually along the lines you stated. Hubs then started calling dems the fascists....
And he only won one state. & DC. I voted for him.
No, RT ran Russian trolls. I ran a Bernie progressive FB page; it was clear what was showing up there. But that was then; let’s be wiser now.
Well, RT was one of the few places that actually gave a voice to some of the more left voices, such as Chris Hedges, Dr. Wolff. While I have been sorely disappointed in how Dr. Hedges has been saying lately, and of course, the turning of a few others (thinking of Greenwood and other other author I can't think of his name off hand), that channel was far less dangerous than Fox and even most of the propaganda networks called 'main stream media.' Trolls are everywhere. Here, too.
I agree, but RT did not give a rip about what was good for democracy. RT’s work was done once they so thoroughly divided liberals into tribes they could manage.
How much better it would have been had we just talked with each other about our differences and stopped looking for utopian perfection. That’s what RT did, it drove us into extremes. And we felt righteous in and empowered by our own narratives.
Hmm. I can't disagree with you - but I think, sadly, progressives and liberals and democracy supporters do just fine in dividing into camps. That is why we must set aside ALL differences and rally behind democracy, and who is supportive of that and who isn't. Time later to iron out more progressive policies and politicians if we have a future.